Comments for Speaking of Clover

Comment on New Green Thumb: Church Project by David Pham

David Pham — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:29:29 +0000

Ryan –

Thanks for the compliment! Can you let me know what section of the website that you think needs to be proof-read? Thanks!

Comment on New Green Thumb: Church Project by Ryan Wright

Ryan Wright — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:40:41 +0000

Great looking site, effective use of photography for sure but man, someone needs to proof-read

Comment on What HTML5 Really Means by Andy

Andy — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:48:07 +0000

“But then the core issue in my mind comes down to choice. Given those problems with Flash, should Apple decide for us and simply disallow it on its devices”

I’ve been back in the Mac camp now for about three years, and this is the main thing that frustrates me about Apple. This is how Apple is, and how they will be into the foreseeable future (only loosing market share is going to change this about Apple). Anyone who wants to be a Mac fanboy has to live with this fact: Apple makes a lot of the choices for you.

It’s the main reason I went with a Droid instead of an iPhone.

Comment on New Green Thumb: Church Project by David Pham

David Pham — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:15:02 +0000

Thanks for the feature Wes! We love Clover and all that you do!

Comment on Clover Gives by Ella Barefoot

Ella Barefoot — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:23:28 +0000

I am so thankful to be apart of the Clover group and to know what a giving heart you have. I tell almost everyone I speak to about Clover of your giving heart. Thanks so much for what you do.

Comment on New Greenthumb: Cornerstone Moorpark by mondo

mondo — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:56:51 +0000

thanks for the love guys. we couldn’t do it without clover. seriously.

Comment on What HTML5 Really Means by Bill

Bill — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 03:53:42 +0000

Let me start by saying Clover is one of the best, easy to use and feature rich content management systems I have worked with.

I think you are spot on about how early html5 is in its life cycle. And my hope is that Clover will become better at rendering the best website possible for each web browser and device. Clover has put together a solid solution for smart phones using html. However, for the iPad I would like to see Clover render the site with a similar navigation as the Flash based site. The iPad is a more capable device than a smart phone browser. For our site our users should see a horizontal “tab” based navigation on the iPad. This does not seem like a stretch for an html based site.

Thank you for all the hard work in creating a great product!

Comment on What HTML5 Really Means by Allen

Allen — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:42:00 +0000

Ben,
I have to say your post is by far one of the best explanations of the issue I’ve seen. Now if only all the people in my church who have iPhones and iPads would read it, I’ll be able to walk down the halls without getting asked to explain why this site… Thanks!

Comment on What HTML5 Really Means by Ben

Ben — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:40:56 +0000

On another note, here’s a great article that articulates exactly why Apple is so good at what they do, and so hard to beat.

And this touches on something that I didn’t mention in my post. For as much as I think Flash will stick around for a long time, it’s in spite of Adobe not because of them. Adobe has been abysmal at fighting back against Apple, and unfortunately I don’t think that’s likely to change anytime soon.

http://flyosity.com/apple/why-apple-succeeds-others-fail.php

Comment on What HTML5 Really Means by Ben

Ben — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:37:49 +0000

That’s a great point Matt. Steve Jobs has consistently bashed Flash for its bugs and for the fact that it would drain the battery on mobile devices. I think those two issues are the most valid ones by far, but there’s also more to the story. As far as bugs go, the vast majority of them are memory related, and caused by bad coding on the part of the people making Flash sites, not by Flash itself. I was actually guilty of this in the very first version of Clover – I didn’t properly get rid of the scroll bar in my code, so every time you went to a new page, the old scroll bar would stay in memory, and eventually the site would crash. I guess I could have blamed Adobe for that, but it was really my fault.

The battery life issue is also a valid downside. I don’t think anyone denies that running Flash on a website takes more processing power – and therefore uses the battery faster – than a site without Flash.

But then the core issue in my mind comes down to choice. Given those problems with Flash, should Apple decide for us and simply disallow it on its devices, or should it be our choice to use more of our battery so we can actually see every site on the web?

The thing is, I completely understand Apple’s strategy. People would probably blame them for the fact that their battery didn’t last long enough or that a website had a bug every once in a while. But I personally am beginning to get really frustrated with the fact that almost every day I have to put down my phone and open my laptop instead.