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Clover Donations FAQ’s

Hey everyone – thanks for all the feedback about Clover Donations so far.  You’ve asked a lot of specific questions, and you’ve been patient for the past couple weeks! To be honest, the payment processing industry is one of the most convoluted industries we’ve ever ventured into. Please feel free to ask as many questions as you’d like about our new product… If something is unclear to you, it’s more than likely because it is actually confusing. And we will always do our best to answer your questions as directly as we possibly can!

Here are the answers for everything you’ve asked so far:


What is the price?

We’ve done everything we can to simplify our end of the price.  We’ll charge a 1% fee for all transactions, and that’s it.  You’ll also need a merchant account (which is kind of like a license that allows you to accept money online).  We’re working with a company that provides merchant accounts at the lowest rate we could find anywhere (starting at 1.96% + $.25 per credit card transaction).  They pass through their direct costs (the fees that the card companies and banks charge), so the final transaction fee varies, but it’s always the lowest you can get.

Also, the fee for a bank transfer is significantly less (0% + $.45), and this is one of the areas where many other companies (especially PayPal) make their money.  PayPal prompts its users to enter their bank account info by calling it “getting verified”.  Then they pull money from that bank account instead of using the credit card on file.  And even though this costs them much less, they still charge their full rate.

Bottom line:
- When you take in a $100 donation from a credit card, you’ll pay Clover $1 and the merchant fees will be between $2 – $3 on average.
- When you take in a $100 donation from a bank transfer, you’ll pay Clover $1 and the merchant fees will be $.45.


Can the donor choose to pay the credit card fee?

For the initial version, we weren’t planning on having that as an option.  But we think that’s a great feature and we’ll definitely consider adding it!


Can I use Clover Donations if I don’t have a website with Clover?

Yes!  You can use Clover Donations with any website you have, or even if you don’t have a site.  Everything is hosted on our secure servers, so you can simply link to your donation forms, or you can embed them in your site.  We’ll also provide code to easily embed “donate now” buttons in most sites, as well as simple links to share your donation forms on social networks or over email.


How will this integrate with a Clover site?

If you have an existing Clover site, there will be lots of ways to link to your donation forms with Clover Donations.  You’ll be able to add a “donation page”, which will create a customizable “donate now” button (similar to the launch button for a media player, calendar, photo album, etc.).  You can also link directly to your forms with a text or picture link.  We’re also working on an option to embed your donation form in your Clover site, rather than linking to it.


Will Clover Donations be available for customers outside of the US?

Unfortunately, the financial system (and the regulations for providing merchant accounts) vary widely from country to country.  We will be working to find ways to provide Clover Donations to all our international customers, but for now, it will be limited to those in the US.


Can I accept money from donors outside the US?

Yes, you will be able to accept donations from almost every country.  They will come out of your donor’s accounts in their currency, and be converted to US dollars when they’re deposited in yours.  Additional fees will apply, and they vary by country.  We’ll do our best to provide more detailed international pricing as soon as we can.


Can I use Clover Donations for event registrations?

There are ways to make your donation forms work for event registration, and we’ve made sure to put several specific features in place to make this work (things like allowing you to set specific pricing options, and giving you lots of control over wording on your forms and receipts).  We plan on providing more features for event registrations in the future, though, because we want the solution to be great, rather than just ok.


Will there be a way to set up different pricing options for event registrations or for selling products?

Yes, you can set your own pricing options, and it should work well for events.  However, because we’re not making a full e-commerce solution, you won’t be able to set options like “small t-shirt: $12″, “medium t-shirt: $15″, etc.


Can I run reports for donors? And use them for tax reporting?

A huge part of our solution is robust reporting and donor management and search abilities.  This is where many other companies fall short (like PayPal), and what most sophisticated non-profits spend tons of money trying to accomplish.  We also send automatic email receipts to your donors (which you can customize), which covers part of your tax reporting obligations.  For end of the year reporting, you’ll most likely need to export your data so you can merge it with your records of everything that you’ve collected offline.


Can I export information to Quickbooks or Excel?

Most definitely.  Our tools make it easy to export information for donors and transactions based on a specific search, a date range, or for all your data at once.  For those of you that have existing donor records in other systems, we’ll even provide a way to add your own unique id’s to your data in Clover Donations to make reconciliation easier!


Will there be an option to not allow credit cards?

Yes.  You can choose to accept credit cards, bank transfers, or both.


Is it possible to differentiate between debit cards and credit cards?

Unfortunately, no…  at least, not at this time.  Online transactions are very different than in-person transactions at a retail store, and as of now it’s not possible to differentiate debit vs credit transactions to only allow one or the other.


Is my card and bank information secure?  Will Clover Donations be PCI certified?

We wouldn’t be much of a solution if we didn’t keep your information secure.  We take security very seriously, and we’re also kinda geeks when it comes to encryption and privacy.  Everything that happens on your donation forms and in the Donation Center is secured by SSL encryption, and is protected in many other ways.  We’re also becoming PCI Level 1 certified, which is the highest level possible.  Part of that certification is an ongoing audit by a recognized security agency, so our security measures will be proven and reliable.

One of the best things about this is that it means that you bear the smallest amount of liability and burden for security.


Are the fees different for bank transfers vs credit card transactions?

Yes.  Bank account transfers (also called eCheck or ACH) have a much lower rate.  You’ll still pay the 1% for Clover Donations, but the merchant account that our partner offers charges 0% + $.45.  So for a $100 donation, you’ll pay $1 to Clover and $.45 for merchant fees.


Will there be a version for general e-commerce or a store that for-profit companies can use?

Right now, it’s only for donations (or giving, tithing, or whatever you call it).  You don’t have to have a 501c3 or 501c6 status to sign up, though.  And the price is the same regardless of your official non-profit status.


Will there be a way to link this with a form page on a Clover site?

At this point, our two products won’t be integrated in that way.  But we have lots of plans for getting there in the future.


What are the fees for bounced checks and declined credit cards?

There are no fees for declined credit cards, but there is a fee for “insufficient funds” via a bank transfer.  There is also a fee for something called a “charge back”, which is when someone pays with their card and then later disputes the charge with their credit card company.  This is extremely rare when it comes to donations, so it’s not something to worry about too much.  And the costs for these two items are pretty standard across the industry.  When we have more information, we’ll provide it.


Will I be able to use my own existing merchant account if I have one?

Yes!  We’re working on integrating our system with the major merchant account providers and gateways.  If you have an existing merchant account that you’d like to use, and it’s through one of the providers we support, we’ll be able to set you up with no additional work.


How often will we get deposits to our bank account?

All your donations will be grouped together each day, and deposited on a rolling basis two days after they’re made.  This is actually faster than the industry standard, which is 3 days (and can range up to 7 days with some companies).


Does Clover Donations come with a way to swipe cards in person?

Clover Donations is strictly an online tool for now, but our merchant account partner can set you up with all kinds of other solutions for credit card processing in house.

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Hopefully that answers all the questions you’ve had up to this point. Feel free to keep the conversation open. And of course, as we get closer, we’ll explain more things in detail. We can’t wait for you all to try this thing out!

26 Comments

David said on November 17th, 2011:

Thanks for these answers. This clears up a lot! Keep up the good work, guys.

Heath said on November 17th, 2011:

Thanks guys, you all are amazing at customer service and answering questions for clients. Keep up the great work! We all lookforward to what you continuously bring to the table.

Kirsten B. said on November 17th, 2011:

Thanks for the update, but I am disappointed about Clover Donations not being available to us Canadians…yet. Please keep working on that and keep us informed.

Jeff Burr said on November 17th, 2011:

Great news about a great new product guys! One more question, will there be a process in place to refund a donation – not a charge back – more like a non-disputed donation made in error (the wife pays the tithes online and then the husband does the same thing… it’s rare but we do get those kind of phone calls.

Jason said on November 18th, 2011:

Wow and THANKS! Yet another great feature of cloversites that doesnt add to our subscription price. You guys enable ministry!

Jim said on November 18th, 2011:

Hey Jeff-
Yes. You will be able to refund any donation (not as a charge back). We really wanted to give you guys as much transaction control as we possibly could.

Tom Marshall said on November 18th, 2011:

Will the site have the following features?
Ability for donor to designate the desired purpose of the contribution. Ability for church administrator to design the menu of designation choices.
Transaction reporting by donor name, contribution designation, and sorted and totalled by date that transaction hits the church bank account.

Josh Gonzales said on November 22nd, 2011:

What date will this launch and be ready to use?

Mary said on November 23rd, 2011:

Hey Josh,

We haven’t set a release date just yet, but definitely into the new year because of the few changes we’ve added. We’ll keep working hard and deliver this as soon as we can!

Mary said on November 23rd, 2011:

Hey Tom,

Yes, Clover Donations will be able to do these things!

You will be able to allow for multiple funds, and designate and design the menu of choices you’d like. You can filter your reports by donor name, and you can sort by other criteria as well. The one element that may not be as precise (or dependable) as you’d expect is the transaction date. You can track your giving by date if you like, but it may show up a little differently that you’d anticipate.

To give you a brief explanation . . . while you may have deposits daily, your donations can be delayed a day or two depending on the bank involved. And it might be helpful to know that the deposits will be received in batches, and not as individual donations. The length of time it takes to process is also a variable depending on the transaction type . . . so you can see that quite a few factors will influence the transaction date and how you might choose to track your giving!

We will definitely explain all of this in much more detail as we near the release of Clover Donations, but hopefully this will give you a good idea of what to expect!

Patrick said on November 26th, 2011:

Hi guys,

Great work on the donations add on. I know you have stated that e-commerce isn’t going to be what you are shooting for but my ministry creates awareness buy sending t-shirts to our donors that are able get the word out about what we do and how people can be a part of the action. So what I am getting at is simple. Please put some sort of commerce ability into the donations page for the sake of para-church ministries like mine.

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Jeff said on November 29th, 2011:

I may have missed this…
Will we be able to schedule recurring transactions? For instance, can a member authorize us to charge $50 weekly, monthly, etc.?

Mary said on November 29th, 2011:

Hey Jeff,

Yes! Absolutely:)

Jason said on December 12th, 2011:

What’s the latest on when this is going to be ready to go?

Mary said on December 13th, 2011:

Hey Jason,

Keep your eye on our blog for upcoming news! We are hoping to release the early part of 2012 (maybe you haven’t yet seen our video post http://www.speakingofclover.com/2011/11/clover-donations-pricing-update/).

More details coming in the next weeks!

David said on December 13th, 2011:

I noticed that the pricing at http://www.cloverdonations.com is updated with new info. However, it looks like there’s a $5/month fee for a merchant account. Is this true for organizations with Clover websites, or just for non-Clover customers who would like to use Clover Donations? Judging by the info in this blog post, it would seem like there’s not a $5/month fee. It’s not a big deal, we just need to know for creating an accurate 2012 budget.

Alicia said on December 14th, 2011:

Will there be a way to have multiple bank accounts to differentiate between different ministries in the church?

Mary said on December 15th, 2011:

Hi Alicia,

You can definitely have different “funds” that allow specific giving for a particular ministry (and reports that reflect this), but all of your donations will be deposited into one bank account.

Hope that is helpful!

Mary said on December 15th, 2011:

Hey David,

Clover Donations itself doesn’t have any monthly fee, but the merchant account that you’ll be using does. We’re happy to say too that the $5 per month is actually quite a bit lower than industry standard (normally $10-$20 a month).

Thanks!

Rowland said on December 28th, 2011:

In preparation for using Clover Donations what will I need to have set up with my Bank? Is it a specific kind of account? I have accounts for my general fund, payroll, etc. So do I need an additional account?

Mary said on January 2nd, 2012:

Hi Rowland,

You won’t need to set up a new account at all. You’ll simply designate which of your existing accounts you’d like to use for your donation deposits!

Kathy said on January 5th, 2012:

I noticed as I read through the questions that linking forms together with this won’t be an option for awhile. We would only use this for registration purposes for youth events and camp registrations since we are a district office and not a church. Any idea how soon that would be available.

Mary said on January 5th, 2012:

Hi Kathy,

No timeline yet on this but keep in mind, once Clover Donations is released, you can use it for registrations! It isn’t perfect for this, but will absolutely work in the meantime.

If you’d like a more in depth explanation, feel free to call in and we’d be happy to go through it with you!

Mike said on January 24th, 2012:

Hi, Clover folks! Thanks in advance for all your work on what I’m sure is going to be a robust, easy-to-use system.Two things, though, following a phone call to your firm yesterday. (1) You’ve stated that Clover Donations will “flip the ON switch” in the early part of 2012, but for those of us who are working on our web and revenue plans, can you be just a LITTLE more specific now that we’re almost done with January? (2) A previous question (David on 12/13/2011) essentially asks about the $5 monthly fee on Clover Donations…”Is this true for organizations with Clover websites, or just for non-Clover customers who would like to use Clover Donations?” Your answer was a bit unclear. If the $5 monthly fee ISN’T for Clover Donations, but for the merchant account, does it apply whether or not we’re a current Clover customer? Again, thanks for your work on creating this new system!

Jason said on January 25th, 2012:

I’m with Mike. My church is right in the middle of a stewardship series and we had planned on rolling this out on our website to coincide with the series, but I’ve not heard anything at all about where things are at. Some info would be great. Thanks.

Mary said on January 25th, 2012:

Hi Mike,

Happy to answer your questions!

Regarding the monthly fee for online donations, this is a fee from the merchant account side of things and may vary depending on who you use for this service. If you use the merchant account that we provide, it will be $5 dollars per month (in addition to your transaction fees). This is a cost for Clover website customers and non website customers alike, but is not something that Clover is charging:) Hopefully that clears things up a bit!

As far as timing goes, our guys are doing amazing! They’re working hard and we are super excited for the launch. Adding to our development (with the merchant account options, and more!) has definitely taken a bit longer than we anticipated. We are getting there though! We have changed and enhanced so much, we can’t wait to show you guys what we’ve been up to. We will definitely be posting updates in the next few weeks, so keep your eyes on speakingofclover.com

Thanks so much for the encouragement too! We are really think you’re all going to love what we’re doing with this!